Posts by in a new york bethel minute

is apostasy considered a conscience matter now? have their been any new developments on this matter yet? im just waiting to come out of this closet... it's so dark in here. i need new light!!!

bethel

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JWs and Clothing

by the_classicist in

where i live, its not usual for people to "dress up," especially business people and executives, you are more likely to see them with a button up shirt, khakis, and one of those fleece vests on.

so, on the whole, jws look very out of place wearing their cheap suits (though a few elders didn't wear cheap suits and they made that known, "look at this, i got a spot on my new $200 designer shirt" -- really, something like this happened).

but what i did notice is that, in my area, dressing guidelines usually weren't followed, or enforced for that matter, for good looking women.

in a new york bethel minute

yea we all love convention-sluts. it's a JW tradition at copps colliseum in hamilton, ON. the best is when ur hitting on a girl and the gay bethelite attendant tells you to sit down. haha this year im making my own attendant badges!!!

bethel

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Is Baptism a contract?? If so, are minors able to give legal consent??

by coult9056 in

jw
friends

dear friends,

i believe the judicial committee wheels are starting to turn.

let me explain why.

in a new york bethel minute

they try to make it like everyone is free to do what they want... but i know people who have been disfellowshipped at 14 years of age. can you imagine that?

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Any former Witnesses here in Toronto or Southern Ontario?

by Toronto_Guy in

i was df'd last february, a year ago now, from my cong.

in toronto.

just wondering if anyone on this board is from toronto or the gta?

in a new york bethel minute

oh yea i forgot to say that we all loved the pasternak girls... becky and i forget the other one's name... yea i think the older one is married now. but she was a honey to say the least

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Any former Witnesses here in Toronto or Southern Ontario?

by Toronto_Guy in

i was df'd last february, a year ago now, from my cong.

in toronto.

just wondering if anyone on this board is from toronto or the gta?

in a new york bethel minute

im from the GTA... i used to be in a hall in mississauga with jim. im not da'd or df'd and i still have lots of JW friends even though im completely inactive with an "independent attitude"...

bethel

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Afraid of change

by Ticker in

jw
friends

this is just a little diddy i thought of today as i was listening to this song, but thought its words were very truthful to all or at least some of us.

"landslide" lyrics by stevie nicks .

"i took my love, i took it down.

in a new york bethel minute

thats why i hate it when dubs say, "you're taking the easy way out. serving jehovah is hard so you stop because you are lazy." that's such bullshit because leaving is the hardest thing you can do especially if you were raised a Jdub and all of your family members want to remain Jdubs. it is great to have a free conscience and knowledgeable mind... but the reprocussions can suck a lot

bethel light

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CHEERS MATE! (an experience with jdubs at a stag)

by in a new york bethel minute in

a couple of years ago a cousin of mine was getting married, so the boys had a little stag party for him.

nothing major, just some drinking and a couple of rounds of pool.

as we received our drinks at the bar, i naturally raised my glass to clink it with theirs.

in a new york bethel minute

a couple of years ago a cousin of mine was getting married, so the boys had a little stag party for him. nothing major, just some drinking and a couple of rounds of pool. as we received our drinks at the bar, i naturally raised my glass to clink it with theirs. only one or two out of the group of about 8 declined. my uncle all but had to say it was now a conscience matter for the two to give in to clinking glasses with the rest of us. most of my cousins and uncles who were there are ministerial servants or elders, and they had no problem with it. all but my brother and i and two of our uncles (one was the school overseer and the other was the P.O. at the time) got way out of hand with their drinking. of course, since it was in the family, a blind eye was taken and nothing came of it.

my brother and i have always been looked down upon for being "less spiritual", yet we maintained our sobriety when it was the norm to get out of hand. i'm not saying i never get drunk, because i do. but i wanted to set an example for christian behaviour and somehow it went unnoticed. this sort of thing helps to solidify the fact that this cult is a haven for those who can keep the outside of the cup clean... for those who can put on a show when needed.

it just bugs me when people preach one thing and do another. none of what went on that night would have bothered me if they didn't preach as much as they do and look down on my brother and i the way they always have.

bethel

P.S. anyone know the roots of the "glass-clinking thing" and whether or not it actually IS a conscience matter now?

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10 Longstanding Problems that I have with the WT Society: A Summary

by Bluegrass Tom in

i have a problem with this.

do they know what the right thing is?

this must mean that college is worse today than it was years ago, but is now okay to attend?

in a new york bethel minute

now THAT was in-depth!